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		<title>By: links for 2008-11-30 &#124; The Marketing Technology Blog, Indianapolis</title>
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		<dc:creator>links for 2008-11-30 &#124; The Marketing Technology Blog, Indianapolis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 22:30:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Fun with the Job Market (graphs &amp; trends) &#124; Darren Herman Darren shows some interesting trends in marketing and public relations jobs as well as some payscale information. The market is changing for marketing professionals, no doubt! (tags: payscale marketing pr publicrelations communitymanager)   SHARETHIS.addEntry({ title: &quot;links for 2008-11-30&quot;, url: &quot;http://www.marketingtechblog.com/2008/11/30/links-for-2008-11-30/&quot; }); [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Fun with the Job Market (graphs &amp; trends) | Darren Herman Darren shows some interesting trends in marketing and public relations jobs as well as some payscale information. The market is changing for marketing professionals, no doubt! (tags: payscale marketing pr publicrelations communitymanager)   SHARETHIS.addEntry({ title: &#8220;links for 2008-11-30&#8243;, url: &#8220;http://www.marketingtechblog.com/2008/11/30/links-for-2008-11-30/&#8221; }); [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Douglas Karr</title>
		<link>http://www.darrenherman.com/2008/11/29/fun-with-the-job-market-graphs-trends/comment-page-1/#comment-74509</link>
		<dc:creator>Douglas Karr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 19:23:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is really intriguing.  Seems that the pay may not be as much to do with the size of the company, but its maturity.  It would be interesting to see the ages of those companies and the pay ranges.

As for the trending, I think public relations is now merging with reputation management (some old PR firms are falling behind, though).  I wonder if this isn&#039;t just a transition in responsibilities rather than new jobs arising and old ones leaving.

Great info, Darren!  Thanks for sharing this!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is really intriguing.  Seems that the pay may not be as much to do with the size of the company, but its maturity.  It would be interesting to see the ages of those companies and the pay ranges.</p>
<p>As for the trending, I think public relations is now merging with reputation management (some old PR firms are falling behind, though).  I wonder if this isn&#8217;t just a transition in responsibilities rather than new jobs arising and old ones leaving.</p>
<p>Great info, Darren!  Thanks for sharing this!</p>
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		<title>By: Darren</title>
		<link>http://www.darrenherman.com/2008/11/29/fun-with-the-job-market-graphs-trends/comment-page-1/#comment-74439</link>
		<dc:creator>Darren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 05:12:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jon, thanks for the comments.  I pulled the charts from Indeed.

Richie, I agree that publicists will still be needed.  Services a different purpose, at least for now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jon, thanks for the comments.  I pulled the charts from Indeed.</p>
<p>Richie, I agree that publicists will still be needed.  Services a different purpose, at least for now.</p>
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		<title>By: richie hecker</title>
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		<dc:creator>richie hecker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 05:04:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fascinating. See it pays to join a startup :) ...

Well startups tend to only have 1 or 2 layers of employees which tend to be underpaid compared to their peers in F500 on a direct level but overpaid compared to the average employee since there are very few lower level people in a new startup (at least a funded one) ... 

In terms of publicist vs. community manager. I agree on the importance of community managers but i think it&#039;s a separate goal. Publicist is supposed to bring people in, while community manager keeps them there...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fascinating. See it pays to join a startup <img src='http://www.darrenherman.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  &#8230;</p>
<p>Well startups tend to only have 1 or 2 layers of employees which tend to be underpaid compared to their peers in F500 on a direct level but overpaid compared to the average employee since there are very few lower level people in a new startup (at least a funded one) &#8230; </p>
<p>In terms of publicist vs. community manager. I agree on the importance of community managers but i think it&#8217;s a separate goal. Publicist is supposed to bring people in, while community manager keeps them there&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: jon burg</title>
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		<dc:creator>jon burg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 05:00:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s a strong risk/reward thing going on here in the upper charts.  The lower chart reflects in a shift in communications strategies, though I&#039;m fairly certain that Publicists will catch onto this social bug sooner or later, and the two titles will merge into one confused squigly line.

Where did you get those charts? How did you pull them? Very nice information, just wondering where one gets such information.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a strong risk/reward thing going on here in the upper charts.  The lower chart reflects in a shift in communications strategies, though I&#8217;m fairly certain that Publicists will catch onto this social bug sooner or later, and the two titles will merge into one confused squigly line.</p>
<p>Where did you get those charts? How did you pull them? Very nice information, just wondering where one gets such information.</p>
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